Sound Off Park Slope: Who Won the First Debate?

During the first presidential debate on Wednesday, Park Slopers sounded off on Twitter, reacting to President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Alright, Park Slope, you were watching the presidential debate on Wednesday night. So, who won?

Within the first 15 minutes, Doug Gordon, a Park Slope resident and founder of website Brooklyn Spoke, tweeted:

And by the end of the debate, he concluded:

The debate, which ran three minutes over (it didn’t help that both candidates cut each other off repeatedly, often speaking over moderator Jim Lehrer), covered “Obamacare,” Medicare, the military, the deficit, the economy and jobs and even how Romney would fire Big Bird (giving birth the twitter handle @FiredBigBird

Romney said that his priority is to get America working again, to create more jobs and help the middle class.

He said that Obama, in the past four years, hasn’t helped the job market.

“We talk about evidence, look at the evidence from the last four years, its absolutely extraordinary: We have 23 million people out of work or stopped looking for work in this country,” Romney said.

The former governor of Massachusetts also stated that, “The status quo is not going to cut it…” and cited that when Obama took office there were 32 million on food stamps, and now there are 47 million on food stamps today and that economic growth this year was worse than last year.

With Romney’s aggressive debate style, Obama seemed a little tired and people thought he was not on the offensive.

Nicholas Kristof, a columnist for The New York Times, ‏thought that Obama was “rusty” and his “wonkish” style wasn’t working. Gordon wrote that Obama needed to be more aggressive towards Romney and doesn’t need to defend his own record, but instead, “He needs to force Romney to explain his.”

On the other hand, Public Advocate Bill de Blasio thought Obama’s statements made sense.

  • Bill de Blasio ‏‪@BilldeBlasio Obama explains Obamacare beautifully: all Americans covered, no pre-exisiting condition bias, age 26 and under on family plans. Home run!

And even Obama, at one point, addressed Romney’s lack of stating a concrete plan:

"At some point the American people have to ask themselves: Is the reason Governor Romney is keeping all these plans secret, is it because they're going to be too good? Because middle class families benefit too much? No," Obama said.

Now, the question is, did anyone's vote change after the debate?

There's the argument that presidential debates don't have a significant impact on Election Day, but, Louise Crawford, who runs Only The Blog Knows Brooklyn and used to write for Patch, echoed that report: 

What do you guys think? Who do you think won and where are their campaigns headed from here? Tell in the comments section below.

Sara October 04, 2012 at 02:16 PM
While I don't think this was the deciding factor for most people, it was disappointing. Obama missed many opportunities and came across as not wanting to be there. He was the clear loser here. It's a shame. I was sitting there in disbelief, forgetting why I liked Obama in the first place. Not good....
Patti October 04, 2012 at 02:17 PM
We all know Romney is for the richest people and wants them to have breaks and he said himself last night "let the poor people help themselves." I am surprised not of the pundits picked upon that sentence.
JackSlope5 October 04, 2012 at 02:20 PM
what were you smoking?..Even as an embarrases Democrat, Romney ate El Presidente for lunch...Wise up!!!
JackSlope5 October 04, 2012 at 02:22 PM
This Democrat says it's time for people to be responsible for themselves..enough of the handouts. i'm voting to Romney.
Patti October 04, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Hey JackSlope5 good idea.......let's not give tax breaks and millions upon millions of dollars to the richest people in the US. They should be responsible for themselves. A vote for Romney is a vote for the Richest in America. Romney likes firing people remember.
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 04:53 PM
What lies did Romney tell?
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 04:57 PM
"let the poor people help themselves." So even when you watch something on tv, you still can't comprehend. You are surprised cause he didn't say it. Here's a newsflash for you: Most poor people don't like being poor. Most poor people want jobs, not handouts.
Robert October 04, 2012 at 04:59 PM
and that is the problem surrounding yourself with supporters and sycophants for your side only.. I bet if you watched the debate by yourself you would have seen what others saw..
AR October 04, 2012 at 05:04 PM
What remains distressing is that the comments here, for the most part, reflect predetermined prejudices and a blatant disregard of realities. One need only look to a comparison of "Obamacare" and the program Romney got passed and installed in Massachusetts. The latter is financially viable and functional, the former not so even in one's wildest imagination. Unbiased reading of sections of the 2000+ pages of legalese gives grave concern, one area being 3/4 trillion dollars out of Medicare, "paid for" through wishful management" of costs in specific areas that impact seniors most profoundly, heart and cancer care. The statistics on hospitals and doctors refusing or intending to refuse new Medicare patients is frightening, an impossible burden compounded by a lack of 90% of new doctors needed to provide for the projected need of new patients. Combined, we're looking at a collapse of healthcare, practically speaking, no office or hospital can handle the increased demand.
Robert October 04, 2012 at 05:05 PM
Obliviously you didn't listen when you watched the debate..He wants to elevate all people not just the poor at the expense of the rich. He also gave a very, very good reasons why that wold be a bad idea and actually counter productive the the goal of helping the poor. .. It is easy for liberals to just dismiss what Romney says but he has an amazing track record of success while cooperating with the other side of the isle.
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 05:15 PM
How was the moderator to blame?
J Andes October 04, 2012 at 05:19 PM
I have heard this stated a couple of times that doctors and hospitals can't handle the increased demand...this is ludicrous...so because you say they can't handle all the new patients that will now be able to get healthcare these people should not be able to get it what nonsense..why because no one can care for them... There's not enough doctors so let millions stay uninsured...surely you are joking
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 05:20 PM
AR, don't forget they promised to lower your healthcare cost by 2500.00, but instead premiums have risen by 3,065.00, 24%. Patients choices have and will be reduced ie; rationing of care. Goodby senior citizens. Remember what Pelosi said, you have to pass it to find out whats in it.
Scottilla October 04, 2012 at 05:21 PM
1. His "tax cut" would be revenue neutral and produce 700,000 new jobs 2. He will balance the budget while adding 716 Billion to Medicare, increasing the armed forces and nor reducing aid to education 3.That he will replace Obamacare once he repeals it 4. That he will replace Dodd Frank once he repeals it 5. That he never favored vouchercare 6. That half of the clean energy companies that received government grants and loan guarantees have gone out of business And of course his old republican chestnuts that higher more progressive taxes cost jobs, that Republicans are friendlier to small businesses than Democrats, that money does not correlate with educational outcomes, I don't think Romney would know the truth if it bit him.
Scottilla October 04, 2012 at 05:27 PM
The patients are still here, Obamacare or not, Doctors turn away patients with private insurance just as often as they turn away Medicare patients, and the 3/4 of a billion was a Republican plan first. Pre determined prejudices anyone?
Patti October 04, 2012 at 07:11 PM
My personal medical insurance is lower plus my son went back on the policy till he's 26. I was paying $650 for him alone on the COBRA plan. So that is a savings. A very good friend of mine owns a small business and I asked him how his insurance rates are and he said they went from 15K to 13K per month for same coverage. That sounds like a savings to me
Patti October 04, 2012 at 07:35 PM
Parkslopper you ask: How was the moderator to blame? Jim Lehrer did not have control of the debate. He allowed mostly Romney but Obama also interrupt eachother. It was not well run. I am really disappointed with Jim Lehrer's performance as a moderator. He's usually at the top of his game; not last night though.
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Scottila: This one"And of course his old republican chestnuts that higher more progressive taxes cost jobs, that Republicans are friendlier to small businesses than Democrats, that money does not correlate with educational outcomes, " 45 million people are on food stamps. Show us all the jobs Obama and co. has produced? 45 straight months of over 8.5 % unemployment. Worst recovery in history. He has never produced a thing in his life. Romney has and has been successful at it. Obama could not stand on his record last night because he doesn't have one. And this one: "That half of the clean energy companies that received government grants and loan guarantees have gone out of business " You mean Solyndra or Abound Solar Inc to name two? I can probably find a lot more. Why don't you tell us the successful ones? Like Romney said, Obama picks the losers, not the winners. Obama had no response to that because there aren't any. The rest of your list is just more lies. Romney said he would replace PARTS of Dodd Frank. You really should watch it again but it wouldn't really matter as you only hear and see what you want.
Ken October 04, 2012 at 11:08 PM
Parksloper...I have to agree with you. Obama tried to twist what Romney said to his own benefit. Look & listen to the debate again...with an open mind. Most importantly, remember that Obama is running now on his own record. You can't keep blaming Bush 4 years later. Remember, Obama promised that he would have everything straightened out in 6 months. Well, it's 3 1/2 years later...so what have you done? Unemployment is higher, gasoline, food, health care is higher. My doctor (and I'm sure many others) are now refusing to take on new patients. There just isn't enough money in it for them to bother.They're better-off closing their practice and affiliating themselves with either a group or a hospital.
Parksloper October 04, 2012 at 11:38 PM
For one, Lehrer retired last year. Two, he certainly did not give Romney more time, someone timed it and Obama had 4 more minutes of answers. It's just hard to tell with all of Obama's uhs, in between his desperate attempts to get Lehrer to move on to the next question. I liked how he didn't cut off their answers, especially Romney and to let Romney respond to Obama's lies. All four moderators are liberal.
Patti October 05, 2012 at 03:39 PM
It doesn't matter that Lehrer retired - he didn't have control of the debate. You might want to rewatch the debate from a neutral stance. Romney lies and makes up things to fit the venue. And, Ken the damage that was done by Bush takes more than 6months I see this morning unemployment rate has gone done. Some doctors don't take on new patients because their practice is full and they can't take care of any more people then they already are. And, my health care and my companies is lower. Doctor's still make plenty of money. I know this was not discussed in the debate but Romeny and Ryan don't think women should have the same rights as men. And, Ryan thinking women can turn off getting pregnant if being raped is a load of crap.
Robert October 05, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel , "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land." Today, Congress has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels and mortgaged the Promised Land! I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc .... I called a Suicide Hotline. I had to press 1 for English. I was connected to a call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal. They got excited and asked if I could drive a truck...... Folks, we're screwed.
Patti October 05, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Nearly 75 years ago, (when Welfare was introduced) Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land." YOU ARE SO WRONG.....................
Robert October 05, 2012 at 07:52 PM
you actually respoinded top that...lol.. you are soo PC you are respnding to old jokes!!cant stoip laughing its hard to type..
John Fernandes October 06, 2012 at 01:14 PM
Big Turd wants to fund his tax cut on the back of Big Bird. Mitt and Ann refuse to show their tax returns for 2005-2009, since their accountants said they paid about 14%, the only reason to hide those returns is the IRS amnesty for rich tax cheats with secret Swiss accounts. After the UBS whistle blower case the IRS let rich tax cheats "pay the fine" instead of trial for the felony they committed. Maybe they should be in the big house rather than the White House.
Ken October 06, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Showing their tax returns for 2005 to 2009 is totally unnecessary and proves nothing. They obviously paid taxes and took the deductions which are lawful to take. Now, Obama's first appointee was to the Secretary of the Treasury, of which I.R.S. is a subsidiary. He didn't pay taxes for three years. How come no one is screaming about that?
Parksloper October 07, 2012 at 07:27 PM
"you actually respoinded top that...lol.. you are soo PC you are respnding to old jokes!!cant stoip laughing its hard to type.." Sadly, these are the people voting for Obama..........
Robert October 08, 2012 at 10:37 PM
So true....
Patti October 09, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Romney says he's reducing the tax rate for middle income but at the same time he is reducing the deductions middle income people are allowed to take. In the end middle income people will pay more..Romney and Ryan = smoke and mirrors, and lies.
Ken October 09, 2012 at 10:43 PM
"Smoke and mirrors"? What politician doesn't use them?! Obama promised to change things in 6 months. I thought he meant for the good. Boy, were we fooled...again!


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