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Voices: Prospect Park West Bike Lane

People and their opinions on the PPW bike lane the day after Brooklyn Supreme Court Justice Bunyan dismissed the lawsuit against the DOT.

A stroll up and down Prospect Park West this morning in pictures.

Check out what the public thinks about the controversial bike lane, how the lawsuit against the DOT , and how the mile-long stretch of green paint is here to stay. 

Parksloper August 17, 2011 at 04:46 PM
Does Toni realize she's on the sidewalk? Wait till that hip breaks. Like to see her ride a bike then.
janet megeed August 17, 2011 at 05:58 PM
bikers are more dangerous than cars!that is why they always get killed or maimed.Every day is an altercation with these "pseudo environmentalists"What good is a clean environment if you won't be here to enjoy it.I want them licensed and monitored like any car,janet.m.park slope
Neil Zwillinger August 17, 2011 at 06:36 PM
licensed and "monitored"? been reading "1984"? the health benefits, the ability to move around the city without fouling the air we breathe, far outweighs whatever petty and factually inaccurate objections you might have...im in san francisco right now and the large number of bicyclists on major roadways only adds to the quiet charm of the city....get used to it, bicycles are here to stay
Peter Kaufman August 17, 2011 at 07:22 PM
The people who get killed are cyclists - and not by other cyclists. Same with pedestrians. Week in and week out, cars kill and maim people in this city. Bikes don't. As for 'licensed and monitored' - how about magnets to pull miscreant cyclists off the street? You Janet M., are one crazy person.
Parksloper August 18, 2011 at 02:03 AM
"Stuart Gruskin died after he was struck crossing the street near his midtown office by a bicycle deliveryman going the wrong way down a one-way street." Sorry, cars are here to stay. Maybe you should stay in San Fran.
Alex Cox August 18, 2011 at 07:14 AM
Totally legit to walk next to your bike on the sidewalk.
Alex Cox August 18, 2011 at 07:25 AM
Looks like bike lanes are here to stay too! I guess we'll all have to get along.
Roger hammerstein August 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM
One thing i have noticed is that many bikers do not abide by the rules.Red lights,stop signs,pedestrians,one way signs,etc seem to not apply to them.What happems when someone gets on a bike? Do they loose there sense of civility and their intelligence?
Greg todd August 18, 2011 at 01:30 PM
Cars are going the same place oil...... Away
Grand Army August 18, 2011 at 02:27 PM
I'm delighted this lawsuit was dismissed and am 100% supportive of the PPW bike lane. However there are too many cyclists who ignore the rules of the road and this needs to change. It's fine for cyclists to demand protection from careless car drivers, but they also need to be much more careful around pedestrians. Last night a cyclist sailed through a stop sign at Prospect Pl and Carlton Ave just as I was about to step off the curb. Another pet peeve of mine is when cyclists ride at full tilt in the wrong direction down one-way streets, suprising pedestrians who can't hear them and aren't looking in that direction. And then there's the folks who ride on the sidewalk. I mean, come on! So, yes to more bike lanes across the city. But yes too to careful, considerate bicycling! Thanks.
Chris August 18, 2011 at 02:33 PM
I agree that many people riding bikes (I refuse to call people on bikes in city streets 'cyclists'; sorry, you are not defined by what mode of transportation you happen to be using on a particular day, and you aren't competing in the Tour de France) do not even yield at red lights, cut through crosswalks mere feet from people crossing who have the walk sign, ride on sidewalks (always near the botanical garden/central library, so annoying/dangerous) go the wrong way down narrow one way streets with no bike lanes, use cell phones/wear headphones while biking, and become indignant if anyone actually calls them out on such behavior. But people in cars perform similar infractions, such as barely stopping at stop signs, running red lights after a brief yield, having near misses with people crossing legally, making sharp sudden broken u-turns, not signaling, texting/phoning while driving, etc., all with the same lack of 'civility and intelligence.' The main differences are that people operating motor vehicles have a higher likelihood of 1) killing someone if such infraction results in contact with another vehicle/person and 2) being caught by law enforcement if they decide to roll the dice and break the law. Unfortunately, people on bikes never seem to get caught and penalized, so, until that changes, many people will continue to flout the laws, thinking that what they are doing is not a big deal. Full disclosure: I own a bike and a car.
Kevin Beers August 18, 2011 at 04:20 PM
In the spirit of getting along does that mean we should call chastise someone for labeling someone as "a crazy person" for the not unreasonable suggestion that bikers should be licensed? (Or implying that one is a fascist in the spirit of 1984"?) Just wondering?
Sherm August 18, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Parksloper, that's the best you can do? One tragic pedestrian death from 2009? It's obviously terrible that Mr. Gruskin was killed, but since then over 500 people, mostly pedestrians, have been killed by cars. If you simply hate cyclists, fine. No one can convince you otherwise. But to equate one two-year old tragedy caused by a bike with hundreds of deaths and thousands of injuries caused by cars is not a compelling argument that bikes are the real problem around here. I'll stay in Brooklyn, though, where I've lived for nearly 40 years.
Parksloper August 19, 2011 at 01:35 AM
Sorry I didn't find more dead people for you Sherm and one that recently happened. I'm sure if I did a more thorough search I could find more. Besides, I wasn't responding to you but this comment. "The people who get killed are cyclists - and not by other cyclists." You think maybe there are more deaths caused by cars cause um, there are more cars than bikes on the road? Yeah, and I'm staying in Brooklyn too. Didn't realize that was a concern.
Greg todd August 19, 2011 at 08:44 PM
Um or maybe being hit by a 3500 pound vehicle can do more damage than a 26 pound vehicle? Like is your ass so precious you need a 3500 pound vehicle to ferry it around town? So what if you incidentally pollute the air, take up a lot of precious space and frequently run over cyclists and pedestrians Man are you a lost being.
Kevin Beers August 19, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Um it's always the same thing- bikers portray this as a conflict between bikes and cars but I am a pedestrian and I find myself dodging bikes a whole lot more often than cars. Cars stop at lights. Cars do not sit in the crosswalks. Cars do not ride on the sidewalks. And cars do not go the wrong way on one way streets. In short drivers for the most part follow the laws. Because if they don't they will be ticketed. I find that when I am inconvenienced or threatened as a pedestrian it is much more likly to be a biker. I'm sure that statistics would demonstrate that bikers break the laws at a much higher rate than your favorite boogey man the car. As a pedestrian I am not polluting the air. And when I travel further I take the subway which is an environmentally friendly mode of transportation. You ride your bikes in fair weather but what do you do when it rains or it's winter. You need to support the subways so they are there when you need them. I am so tired of this self righteous blather that you are saving the environment. Bikes make such a little dent in the war on pollution. It's really a fashionable feel good kind of lifestyle in which you can feel superior. Boy am I going to hear about that remark.
Kevin Beers August 19, 2011 at 09:09 PM
I would like to add that I find bikers much more pleasant and courteous in places other than New York. My wife was an avid biker in Boston and defended bikers against my criticism but then was appalled by the lack of consideration she found when she moved here.
Parksloper August 19, 2011 at 10:22 PM
"Um or maybe being hit by a 3500 pound vehicle can do more damage than a 26 pound vehicle?" Thanks for the info captain obvious but you missed the point of my comment to someone else. A lost being? Smoke too much weed or something? And I'll drive my precious ass, and yes it is precious, anytime anywhere in a car cause its none of your damn business.
Parksloper August 19, 2011 at 10:28 PM
There are a lot of studies proving electric, hybrid are no better than standard cars and in fact worse. One: Electric cars may not be so green after all, says British study : http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/electric-cars-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-says-british-study/story-e6frg8y6-1226073103576 Also the hybrid batteries are from China where the rare earth metals used to make the magnets for the batteries are being abused in the mining process.

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