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Fourth Ave Tied for Third Most Dangerous Road in Brooklyn for Peds

The Tri-State Transportation Campaign rated the notorious speedway the third most dangerous road in the borough with four fatalities since 2008.

We all know Fourth Avenue is hard to cross safely, but thanks to a transportation organization, now we know it can be fatal.

The Tri-State Transportation Campaign released its analysis of federal traffic fatality data with a fact sheet and a map that outline when and where pedestrian were killed in Brooklyn. In total, 139 pedestrians died in the borough from 2008 to 2010.

The non-profit organization found that Fourth Avenue is tied for third place (with Eastern Parkway and Avenue U) as the most dangerous road for pedestrians with four fatalities from 2008 to 2010.

The data shows that the first pedestrian killed on Fourth Avenue was an 86-year-old man on August 25, 2008 when he tried to cross the avenue at 15th Street. 

The second death on the same avenue occurred on July 22, 2009 when a 28-year-old man was killed near the intersection of 39th Street.

The third accident where a pedestrian was hit by a car and died was on Jan. 13, 2009 when a 75-year-old man lost his life on Fourth Avenue between 44th and 45th streets.

The last death recorded by Tri-State Transportation Campaign was on Jan. 17, 2009 when a 58-year-old man was killed while crossing the avenue at 79th Street.

The data also revealed three deaths in Park Slope:

  • A 27-year-old man was killed on Third Avenue and Degraw Street on Jan. 29, 2008.
  • A 38-year-old woman was killed on Flatbush and St. Marks Avenue on March 11, 2009.
  • A 78-year-old man died while crossing Third Avenue and Union Street on Oct. 16, 2010.

The Tri-State Transportation Campaign’s analysis shows that Kings Highway and Atlantic Avenue, both with seven pedestrian fatalities, are tied for the most dangerous road in Brooklyn. Brighton Beach Avenue and Ocean Parkway, both with six deaths, are the second most dangerous roads.

, the Senior Advisor to the Borough President and , said that the rating is obvious.

“You don’t need a rating system to know that Fourth Avenue can be a treacherous place for pedestrians, especially kids who attend one of the many schools along the avenue,” Scissura wrote in a statement to Patch. “Statistics like these are a sobering reminder of why we need a comprehensive plan to improve Fourth Avenue from Atlantic Avenue to the Atlantic Ocean. As the Chair of Borough President Markowitz’s Task Force on Fourth Avenue I look forward to working with elected officials, community groups and community boards to address these safety concerns as soon as possible.”

Do you feel save crossing Fourth Avenue? What other streets do you think are dangerous for pedestrians?

Pedestrianite March 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Thank goodness the 78th Precinct is in Prospect Park, ticketing cyclists for going 26 miles per hour.
M. Atealum March 13, 2012 at 12:33 AM
There's hardly a street in Brooklyn where drivers don't speed, make illegal u-turns, and nearly run down pedestrians, even when we have the light. It's a crisis and something must be done.
Darryl Warren March 13, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Drivers are ridiculous on their driving and it is unbelievable that borough leadership has no cracked down. I regularly watch young people, parents with babies, and the elderly flee in fear across Myrtle and Flatbush. Brooklyn leadership should ce ashamed when people have become afraid to cross the street.
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Pedestriante- you make a flippant remark and ignore the fact that at least four pedestrians were seriously injured by bikers in the park. It amazes me how bikers won't acknowledge and address this issue. Are those incidents less important because the victims weren't killed but just hospitalized for months?
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Being as four people were injured by bikers then yes policing bikers speeds is a start though a weak and half hearted one. There ought to be a whole lot more policing. Instead everyone ignores the issue and panders to bikers and it will happen again. And when it does bikers will again refuse to address this problem.
Pedestrianite March 13, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Rick, I don't bike. I walk across numerous streets every day. As bad as those accidents in the park were, it's crazy that the police are spending so much time in the park while drivers kill and maim every day. It's not an either or choice in my mind...the cops can ticket cyclists in the park if that's effective, but why are they ignoring the higher volume of terrible drivers all over Brooklyn?
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 01:52 PM
You're right it is not an either or proposition. It is something that DOES need to be addressed. And it's not. There are not police in the park addressing the situation. It has only happened a couple of times in response to outrage when another tragic accident happens. We should not have more people getting hurt. And that issue should not be dismissed or treated flippantly. Furthermore I'm sure that if you did the math that the percentage of pedestrians hit on the streets per number of drivers is much smaller than the prt centage of people hit in the park by bikers by number of bikers.
Hambone March 13, 2012 at 01:58 PM
Rick- Is your question really, are fatalities more important than injuries? I feel for the victims in all of these but I think most of us can agree that fatalities are way more important than injuries.
Hambone March 13, 2012 at 02:05 PM
Rick- If you give me the data, I'll do the math for you. While you are doing that, can you also post how many people were killed by cyclists versus killed by drivers?
Pedestrianite March 13, 2012 at 02:46 PM
What do you mean? This very website is reporting that the 78th gave out nearly 200 tickets to cyclists in Prospect Park in one month. How can you say that it's not being addressed? It's being addressed to such a huge level that other infractions elsewhere are being ignored. Over 7 million people visit Prospect Park every year. There were have been fewer than 10 reported accidents in the last year. That means that 0.000142% of park users are involved in an accident. I'm not sure there's a place in all of NYC that is safer than Prospect Park statistically. The Times also did the math: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/31/how-scared-should-we-be/ You have a 1 in 4,919 chance of dying in a bike accident, but a 1 in 84 chance of dying in a car accident. The Patch is also reporting that three pedestrians were killed, one per year, on 4th Avenue. Hundreds more were injured along the avenue. But the NYPD is definitely not giving out hundreds of tickets to reckless drivers. What math do you have?
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 04:45 PM
Got both hambone and pedestrianite- it's nice that you can put a value on the degree of a victim's suffering. If you are Only knocked into a coma and spend months in the hospital then there shouldn't be any action to avoid future incidents. And OK your statistics show that as a pedestrian you are more likely to be killed in an encounter. With a bike you'll only be hospitalized. Amazing how you can get creative in reading them. You're right we shouldn't do anything to rein in bikers. Let's keep going this way. Oh and a question- how many cars yield to red lights and to pedestrians and how many bikers do? I saw a biker stop for a red light once. It stopped me in my tracks. (I had the light). And I commended him for following the law.
Hambone March 13, 2012 at 05:33 PM
Rick- Follow the conversation. YOU used the first valuation word, "less." And it was not on the amount of someone's suffering! You were suggesting that there is no difference between the suffering of someone dying and someone being injured. You obviously have an agenda which outweighs logic.
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 07:19 PM
Hambone I did use the word "less" first. I said it was offensive to somehow assign a hierarchy of awfulness between Simeon getting killed and someone ending up in a coma. I said were those victims any less important because they weren't killed but were hospitalized for months. With a coma and with brain damage. And I find it abhorrent that you can make a value distinction and that you think that addressing those dangers should be assigned on some sort of scale of tragedy. I don't think that protecting pedestrians ought to be done on a triage basis. And I think Your argument is quite tortured. And yes I do have an agenda. My agenda is to make sure that people are not needlessly injured because bikers can't be bothered riding responsibly and following rules. And bringing up the issue of park policing in the context of pedestrians being killed on the streets an pedestrianite did is I think a perfect example oh having an agenda. Sorry but I think that ped seems awfully concerned about police ticketing bikers to not have a biking inerest. And again I find it distasteful that you put a value judgement on the difference between being seriously injured and being killed. It is all horrible and it is all in need of being addressed.
rick sanchez March 13, 2012 at 08:30 PM
rick - well done. except for the part about bothering to reply to someone called 'hambone.'
Rick Oshea March 13, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Good point Rick. Thanks.
Rick Levine March 14, 2012 at 12:13 AM
Let it be known that Rick Oshea thinks preventing over 200 deaths per year outside of the park should not be as big a focus of the NYPD as preventing four injuries, major and minor, inside the park. Good to know.
Rick Oshea March 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Let it be known that Rick Levine will twist words to advance his argument. Go back and read what I said. I said there shouldn't be sone sort of triage, some sort of misery index to address what is a real problem. And like so many others you are dismissive of those who were seriously injured in the park. You display exactly the attitude that allows these tragic incidents to continue. Anyone objective will see your comment for what it is.

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